With Corridor D scoring mainly Performs Very Poorly and Performs Poorly, together with a high environmental impact, I would hope that the local community would not be supportive of such an expensive option for no beneficial outcome other than to accommodate more traffic on the road.
Thanks for the feedback AJ
Ringwood maroondah highway needs this route to ease its congestion. Also this route allows lilydale, croydon mooroolbark, residents access to eastern surburb quicker for job opportunities and daily commute.
Thanks for your comments Victor.
looking at all the corridors I feel that corridor D would be more suitable in the long term it would connect the growing northern regions with the eastern regions we should be looking further ahead not just short term gains there are a lot of road projects that I drive on that I just shake my head and think why didn't they put an extra lane in or merging lanes to filter traffic off a main Highway into a housing estate.I could give you more information and pictures the real point I'm getting at are these road where badly planned with short term thinking.
Thanks for the feedback. As part of planning for North East Link we're looking closely at where people are predicted to be living and working as Melbourne continues to grow and at how the different corridor options will service our future freight and transport patterns and needs. We're also looking closely at strategic planning documents like Plan Melbourne to make sure North East Link aligns with these.
Corridor d would pick up more traffic than you think!! Once again though we will lose and it will turn out to be corridor a which will see no reduction to the traffic coming from the north to get on the ring road!!! Our travel time will remain the same...
Thanks for your comments. We're interested to know if communities think our studies so far have missed anything important. Please let us know more about why you think corridor D would attract more vehicles travelling between the north and south-east than our traffic modelling so far has found by joining the discussion forum here https://jointheconversation.northeastlink.vic.gov.au/corridor-options
In Looking at the options and considering the Areas of interest relating to these 4 options , it appears that 'You' are more concerned with immediate effects of these routes on the areas currently in use regarding traffic congestion, connecting businesses , Truck use , Freight transportation, pedestrian access etc.
I think 'You' ought to make considerations for the effect Route C or D could have for a future expansion rate and the fact that improved accessibility with a wider circle or reach will attract businesses, freight companies , Education , Public Transport etc. to these areas. If land value in areas is more affordable , then Developers will benefit and industry can grow, residential areas grow, and Infrastructure Planning can be manipulated so that Freight Companies will make use of the freeway access as a cost saving experience etc.
Consider that If you build Route D or C , it will manipulate the region and will determine the demographic of the area and with strategic planning and Management via Councils , the negatives shown in the Score above , can be manipulated into positives for everyone.
With proper Project Management and Consideration and Decisions made for the Right future reasons rather than to satisfy current expectations , A forward thinking Plan can be beneficial and profitable and there will be less need to make alterations later on to a construction that doesn't deal with the issues correctly at the time of completion.
Don't think of the money saved Now by not spending it but rather, think of the money saved and also gained later by spending it now.
Thanks for your feedback Karl,
In planning for North East Link we're looking closely at how the different corridor options fit with local and state government plans for greater Melbourne. This includes plans to keep the Urban Growth Boundary in place until at least 2050 and forecasts for where people are likely to be living and working over the coming decades.
Though I understand the benefits of having a corridor through Mooroolbark for ease of access to the airport, for example, I cannot agree to the currently proposed route, as I would lose my house. From what I can see, the current route would take corridor D through my living room (in a house we are in the early stages of renovating).
From an environmental point of view, there are two concerns with my street (Greenslopes Drive).
1. There would need to be thorough research done on the local watershed. There was a significant storm at the end of December last year which flooded one part of our road, and a few houses (from 85mm of rain in one hour). Climate change scenarios do point to more intense rainfall events, so localised flooding may become an issue, or may have other hydrological effects. Any research on this section of the corridor would need to include hydrological research.
2. Studies on the impact of the local birdlife is essential. There are a lot of native birds flocking around our area and in the green spaces near our property, particularly the green space with the Melbourne Water-owned waterway.
3. I'm doing my PhD in urban microclimate at Melbourne Uni (in relation to Melb Metro Rail - Parkville Station). I could hypothesise that there would also be urban heating/air pollution effects as a result of increased cars, and changing the land surface to an impervious road (assuming no tunnel).
Suggestions may be to extend the tunnel under this green space, or to slightly change the route so it goes through another patch of green space at the top of a hill further away from the waterway (which is also a walking track).
Of course the other option would be to ditch Option D.
Thanks for your feedback and the great local knowledge about your area. The kinds of studies you've listed are certainly some of the areas we are looking at now, and will be in much more detail once we have a preferred corridor. Speaking with local communities to hear some of the valuable information they've collected over the years is also part of how we plan for North East Link.
Because we don't yet know where North East Link could be built, nor how it could be designed it is too early for us to know which properties would potentially be affected.
Two of our guiding principles are to minimise impacts on communities and the environment. One of the ways we are looking at doing this is by using tunnels. The sections of tunnel shown on the indicative routes are minimum lengths. The routes are subject to change based on further technical studies and community consultation.
If you have any concerns now, please contact our team on 1800 941 191 or at firstname.lastname@example.org so we can take your contact details and keep in touch with you as the project progresses.
One of our guiding principles for this project is to minimise impacts
ABC News item promotes corridor D because "The limited amount of tunnelling could mean it has less environmental impact and would also mean it would be relatively easy to construct." Not what I understand for this option? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/north-east-link-four-corridor-options-compared/8782898
Thanks for checking in with us on this one. Our work so far has found that Corridor D would be approximately 40 km and that a minimum of 40 % would likely be required to be built in tunnels to protect sensitive environmental areas such as the Yarra River.
However, we have also found that surface works would have considerable impacts on areas of high ecological value. More importantly Corridor D would place development pressure on the green wedge and semi-rural communities outside the Urban Growth Boundary.
For these reasons, we assessed its overall performance in the area of 'ability to protect the environment, culture, heritage and open spaces' as 'very poor'.
You can read more about what we've found about Corridor D on our website here http://northeastlink.vic.gov.au/project-corridors/corridor-d
As part of Corridor D proposal, have you considered a direct connection to the Melba/Maroondah Hwys to bypass Lilydale & Coldstream? I think this proposal should be considered as a long term option for future development
Hi Chuckles. Thanks for the question. We developed the corridor options for North East Link with the aim of being able to meet the project objectives and principles.
These include areas like reducing congestion in the north-east, helping connect people to jobs and education, and helping businesses to access more workers and customers. Corridor D was the furthest east we investigated as an option to meet these objectives.
If you think there are other objectives we should be looking at for how we develop and assess options for North East Link, you can give us this feedback by completing the survey here https://jointheconversation.northeastlink.vic.gov.au/shape-north-east-link
How much will it cost for Corridor D?
I believe that since this proposal is probably 2 to 3 times B or D proposal, it has no hope of getting off the ground. Governments would not even consider it especially as your points suggests limited benefits, so i can't see why this one is even considered.
Hi Theo. Thanks for the question. We're investigating each of the corridors against areas like reducing congestion on roads in the north-east, connecting people to jobs and education and helping freight get from A to B more efficiently.
It was initially thought that Corridor D would be suitable for a road with no tunnels to cater for trucks. Our early work has found that tunnels and bridges would be required to minimise impacts on sensitive areas and avoid steep inclines. We have also found that this option would offer few connections to the existing road network and be unlikely to help reduce congestion in the north-east.
Because we are at such an early stage of the project, we still have more work to do to cost of each these options. This will form part of the final business case.
We're sharing with communities what we've found about each of the corridors so far so you can tell us if we are measuring the things that matter to you as we work towards recommending a preferred corridor.
Option D will give awesome access for Outer East people to the airport, and also Dandenong/Frankston and the city.
Also help tourists get to the Yarra Valley quickly!
Needs to be done at same time as the long-awaited Lilydale bypass.
Thanks for your comments SFG.
Option ' D ' is the ONLY sensible option. Why listen to the public ? There are professionals .Let the town planners decide .The locals will always complain ! There will always be someone unhappy about , what ever is being decided.PLAN BIG ! PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, 50 OR MORE YEARS AHEAD ! ! Do something for your grandchildren. Short term planning will have to be corrected sooner or later for a LOT of money . NO TOLL WAY ! !
Thanks for your comments 807gt.
Why do we still have a Corridor D option if the above scores are so low? especially compared to Corridor A option.
Does it mean that Corridor A's victory is already a forgone conclusion? and the other options are just a veneer of democracy?
Hi Bennnn. Thanks for the question. We don't have a preferred corridor at this stage of the planning process. We are sharing these potential corridors early in our investigations so we can update the community on what we've found so far and hear what you have to say. If you'd like to get involved, we encourage you to use the survey and discussion forums on this site to tell us what you want North East Link to achieve. We'll also be hosting information sessions across the north-east throughout August if you would like to speak with our technical teams. You'll find details and links to RSVP on this site.
How did you come up with such a daft idea that wastes at least 25 minutes with its "Grand Circle" route?
Hi JM, thanks for your question. Part of our
work at this early stage is exploring all possible options to connect the M80
Ring Road with the Eastern Freeway or EastLink. This corridor was initially
considered as a road with no tunnel to cater for trucks. Preliminary
investigations have found that tunnels and bridges would be required to
minimise impacts on sensitive areas and avoid steep inclines.